Even N.T. Wright will appreciate the Upated NIV?

If you’ve read enough of N.T. Wright, you would have discovered that he doesn’t particularly like the NIV, well, at least its handling of Paul’s letters, especially in Romans.

Well, after looking at the updated NIV, and noticing the reworking of so many texts in Romans, I think even the former bishop of Durham would appreciate it now.

Consider the following changes in the NIV2011 Bible from Romans 3 and 4:1:

NIV1984 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. (v. 21)
NIV2011 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.
NIV1984 God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished– (v. 25)
NIV2011 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood–to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished–
NIV1984 he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. (v. 26)
NIV2011 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
NIV1984 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. (v. 27)
NIV2011 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith.
NIV1984 Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, (v. 29)
NIV2011 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too,
NIV1984 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, discovered in this matter? (4:1)
NIV2011 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, discovered in this matter?

I think N.T. Wright might be considering a switch to the upated NIV.  No really!  But I think he’ll appreciate it a lot more than its predecessor.

One thing is sure, the Upaded NIV has been influenced by this rereading of Paul, that we call the New Perspective on Paul.

My take.

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13 Responses to Even N.T. Wright will appreciate the Upated NIV?

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  2. Rick Wadholm Jr. says:

    Now I found those changes fascinating. Going to their website they still have not specified who was responsible for which books so one is not able to see that, but being somewhat familiar with committee work I know that it goes also by votes rather than by the work of a single translator or even a team of translators. I do find their changes to be rather curious (especially as Moo sits at the head of the committee). Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the info.

  3. TC,

    So now your saying the new NIV’11 has been affected by the NPP in translation? That would be a question for Moo I would think? (Who by the way, doesn’t follow the NPP).

  4. raddestnerd says:

    TC,

    In a nutshell what is NPP (in contrast with the traditional perspective on Paul)? I am curious to know. (Cannot wait to resume my seminary education!)

    Thanks.

  5. My computer generated comparison of the NIV2011 with the TNIV and NIV1984 has had many major updates:
    http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/

    1. Greek text – now includes the SBLGNT with apparatus

    2. Hebrew text – HBS text included (experimental)

    3. Most changed verses list compared with both TNIV and NIV1984:
    http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/most_changed_verses_tniv.html
    http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/most_changed_verses_niv1984.html

    4. List of (possible) proper noun changes:
    http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/proper_noun_changes.html

    5. List of word changes relevant to the gender language debate:
    http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/cbmw_words.html

    6. List of all words in text (warning: page is very large)
    http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/all_words.html

    Plus many many bug fixes, improvements in presentation, and other minor fixes.

    -RobHu

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  7. T.C. R says:

    Rick,

    I know that Moo has mentioned in his Romans commentary his struggles with sarx, but now we have “flesh” replacing “sinful nature” in most places.

    Plus, a Gordon Fee is sympathetic toward the New Perspective.

    But yes, it would have been good to know who worked on what.

    Fr. Robert,

    It’s my hunch from what I’ve so thus far.

    Raddestnerd,

    Let my recommend a simply 17-pg PDF: here.

  8. TC,

    For the most part, only aspects of the NPP have been even seen, much less than followed as a whole. I can only perhaps go this far (proper law & gospel), but certainly no further. And knowing something of Luther and even Calvin themselves.

  9. T.C. R says:

    Fr. Robert,

    But enough to affect a recent translation (CEB) and a revision (NIV). 😉

  10. raddestnerd says:

    TC, Fr. Robert, thanks for the resources. 🙂

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