Is the Church Wrong?

On human sexuality, Matthew Vines, a twenty-something with no formal theological training, believes that the church has been wrong on human sexuality for the last 2000 years.  This is according to Owen Strachan and Andrew Walker who reviewed Mr. Vines God and the Gay Christian, a book which is stirring not a few controversies.

According to Strachan and Walker, if Mr. Vines is correct, Jesus is wrong, “because Jesus—the Incarnate and Risen Lord—is not aware of his own patriarchal biases in Matthew 19:4-6.”  You see, in Matthew 19:4-6 Jesus mentions the marriage union between a man and a woman, a male and a female.  Strachan and Walker continue,

It is a key plank in Vinesian exegesis that the writers of the New Testament lacked a modern comprehension of individuals with a same-sex orientation. But this approach to interpretation defies how the Scripture understands itself and distorts any credible doctrine of inspiration. If the Church—a pillar and buttress of the truth (1 Tim: 3:15)—has been wrong on homosexuality, what else has she been wrong on?”

As expected, if Mr. Vines has already concluded that Jesus and the New Testaments got it wrong on human sexuality, then the church throughout the ages stood no chance, unless it was siding with Mr. Vines.

In concluding their post, Strachan and Walker issue this challenge,

Put it this way: If we’re faced with a choice between a precocious twenty-something with lots of neat new ideas about sexuality and gender untested by the scholarly community on the one hand, and an apostle gored by a Roman sword because the Holy Spirit spoke through him in tones ancient authorities considered hostile to imperial rule on the other, we’re banking on the latter.” read entire post…

So am I.

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8 Responses to Is the Church Wrong?

  1. Jon Hughes says:


    In my country, Steve Chalke – once the golden boy of British evangelicalism – has gotten into hot water over the past decade for his views on the atonement, and more recently the issue of homosexuality.

    I like Chalke and admire his courage. He seeks to make the case that the Bible doesn’t have anything negative to say about a monogamous, mutually loving, lifelong, same-sex marriage union. One thing for sure is that this issue is not going to go away – but I sense that there is far too much ‘politics’ in play at the moment, and that we are not handling it at all well…. the Evangelical Alliance has just thrown thrown Chalke and his organization (“Oasis trust”) out.

    You only have to listen to Chalke to know that he is passionate about the Bible, and that this issue is a matter of interpretation. Am I right in thinking that Adam Hamilton in your country takes a similar approach?

    • TC Robinson says:

      Jon, it’s the great challenge of our time, at least for us Evangelicals. It’s interesting that you mentioned Adam Hamilton. I’ve just been contacted by a book publisher to review his most recent book. Let’s see what is between those covers. 😉

  2. Simon says:

    Well TC, if you are in the Reformation camp, apparently the Church was wrong about a lot of things 😉

    • David Beirne says:

      From the same articlelinked above: “Luther never believed the church had been in error from its beginning. He wasn’t calling for the rejection of long-held beliefs; instead, Luther was reaffirming the faith “once and for all delivered to the saints.” 🙂

  3. David Beirne says:

    “If we’re faced with a choice between a precocious twenty-something with lots …, we’re banking on the latter.”

    Oh how I would love to hear that read in a British accent 🙂

  4. David Beirne says:

    The older I get, the more I notice these young ones with all the answers. Reminds me of an old Richard Pryor joke (that I must have heard in Sunday School), “Ain’t no such thing as an old fool. You don’t get to be old bein’ no fool.”

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